Update: As of 6:45 pm on December 1, 2011 my Youtube Channel is officially back and open for business!
Here’s what they said:
YouTube Support
show details 6:45 PM (5 hours ago)
Hi there,
After a review of your account, we have confirmed that your YouTube
account is not in violation of our Terms of Service. As such, we have
unsuspended your account. This means your account is once again active and
operational.If you forgot your password, please visit this link to reset it:
(link removed)Thanks,
The YouTube Team
I’d just like to say “Thank you” to the team member at Youtube who was finally willing to review my account for me, and also for reactivating it after all these months. Thank you, I truly appreciate it!
Here’s even better news:
They didn’t put any restrictions or demands on me, and they didn’t ask me to remove any of the videos… they restored it to its 100%, fully operational state.
However, even though they didn’t ask (or require) me to remove any of the videos…
I’ve been meaning to update the content on my “Jeff Johnson Youtube” channel for a long, long time.
So I just told my Operations Manager to have the guys to start “cleaning house” and updating the content on my youtube channel.
It may take a few weeks since we are in the middle of a new product launch, but I hope to have it completed for you as soon as possible.
That means… plenty of new training videos are on the way!
If you’d like to have instant access to the new training videos as soon as they are released, simply subscribe to my “Jeff Johnson Youtube” channel and you’ll automatically notified each time the new training videos are uploaded.
Here’s the original story:
Youtube shut me down and I have no idea why they would do such a thing.
I’m hoping you and my other readers can help me figure this out.
Here’s my story:
Last week Youtube terminated my account.
On August 4th Youtube sent me an email that said “YouTube Community has flagged one or more of your videos as inappropriate.”
They went on to say “Your account has received one Community Guidelines warning strike, which will expire in six months.”
Additional violations may result in the temporary disabling of your ability to post content to YouTube and/or the permanent termination of your account.”
Here’s a copy of the email they sent me:
(click on image to view full screen)
This was the first and only notice I received from youtube about this or any other video being an issue in the last 18 months… I searched my inbox just to be sure and it’s the only one I can find.
Yet they terminated my youtube account that very same day. .. youtube didn’t even bother giving me the six months they mentioned in their email message.
Even worse … in my opinion youtube’s doing a great job of tarnishing my reputation by telling everyone who tries to view one of my videos that I’m some sort of “repeated or severe violations” offender.
(Note to youtube: Are two flags for marketing videos hat have been seen hundreds of thousands of times in 3 or 4 years really “repeat” or “severe”?)
Here’s what you’ll see if you visit my old youtube channel right now (click image to view full screen):
I had something like one million views of my youtube channel so chances are pretty good a LOT of people will see this less than friendly message.
And here’s what you’ll see if you visit one of the pages of that used to host my individual video:
Not cool, youtube! You are accusing me of posting “spam, scams, and commercially deceptive” videos yet nothing was being sold in the video, and it was 100% unique educational content that I created for my thousands of loyal youtube followers.
(Note to youtube: Everyone makes mistakes, especially me. But isn’t it possible that once in awhile your automated software systems or overly tired employees that are tasked with reviewing tens of thousands of videos a day make a mistake as well? If so, why not say something nice like “sorry, this video is no longer available”, when you remove a video… It just seems much “nicer” in my opinion and doesn’t seem nearly as offensive to someone if their video was mistakenly removed.)
Now I’m a big boy and I know when I do something wrong but I still have no idea what I did wrong
The video they flagged as “inappropriate” was me speaking at an internet marketing seminar.
The title of the video was “Part 2 — Internet Marketing With, SEO, youtube, Myspace, Facebook, RSS Feeds and More.”
I believe this particular video was posted in 2008 as part of an 18 part series that has been viewed over a hundred thousand times (I can’t give you exact dates or total views of each of the 18 videos in that series since youtube has locked me out of my account).
(Note to youtube: My team was able to locate a backup copy, but what about all the people that don’t have backup copies of their videos? It sure would be helpful to everyone if you allowed us limited access to our accounts after you terminate them so we have an opportunity to download the videos in our account.)
I’ll go on record right now and say I HAVE ABOSLUTELY NO IDEA WHAT COULD POSSIBLY BE OFFENSIVE ABOUT ME SPEAKING AT AN INTERNET MARKETING SEMINAR… I was teaching people how to use web 2.0 to promote their business (which by the way is permissible according to youtube’s own terms of service).
I still have no idea why they would terminate my account and ban me from youtube for life for such a video…
But just to be safe I checked out youtube’s Community Guidelines:
Here are Youtube’s Community Guidelines as printed on their site as of August 11, 2011
(my comments are below each youtube guideline and is marked with “Jeff Says:”)
1. ” YouTube is not for pornography or sexually explicit content. If this describes your video, even if it’s a video of yourself, don’t post it on YouTube. Also, be advised that we work closely with law enforcement and we report child exploitation. Please read our Safety Center and stay safe on YouTube.”
Jeff Says: I have never posted anything remotely close to pornography anywhere on the internet, especially on youtube. Don’t get me wrong, I like naked women as much as the next guy but my youtube channel is 100% porno free so this can’t be the issue.
2. Don’t post videos showing bad stuff like animal abuse, drug abuse, under-age drinking and smoking, or bomb making.”
Jeff Says: I don’t abuse animals, I don’t do drugs, I don’t smoke and I don’t encourage under-age drinking and I’ve never posted anything related to any of these topics on the internet, especially my youtube channel.
3. Graphic or gratuitous violence is not allowed. If your video shows someone being physically hurt, attacked, or humiliated, don’t post it.
Jeff Says: The video was of me speaking at a seminar and I promise you I didn’t attack, physically hurt or humiliate anyone in any of my videos. Although if you’ve ever been to a seminar you’ll know that there are those people in the audience that you wish you could just smack upside the head for saying or doing stupid. But this just wasn’t’ the case in any of my videos.
4. YouTube is not a shock site. Don’t post gross-out videos of accidents, dead bodies or similar things intended to shock or disgust.
Jeff Says: No dead bodies, no mutilations, no accidents or anything even remotely close to that in any of my youtube videos. The only thing shocking in my videos is my ability to talk really, really fast and cover a ton of material in a short period of time, but thankfully there’s no youtube rule against that (at least not that I’m aware of).
5. Respect copyright. Only upload videos that you made or that you are authorized to use. This means don’t upload videos you didn’t make, or use content in your videos that someone else owns the copyright to, such as music tracks, snippets of copyrighted programs, or videos made by other users, without necessary authorizations. Read our Copyright Tips for more information.
Jeff Says: I created all of the videos in my youtube channel except for a few of my speaking at an internet marketing seminar and I have full permission from the seminar hosts to use them in my marketing.
(Note to youtube: there are dozens of illegally posted copies of my videos on youtube, including copies of the video you terminated my account over. But when I tried to report them as copyright infringement… I couldn’t use your online form since I was locked out of my youtube account… and you need a youtube account to report copyright infringement using your online system.)
6. “We encourage free speech and defend everyone’s right to express unpopular points of view. But we don’t permit hate speech (speech which attacks or demeans a group based on race or ethnic origin, religion, disability, gender, age, veteran status, and sexual orientation/gender identity).”
Jeff Says: Definitely does not apply to any of my youtube videos… I’ve been on record in my videos saying many times “why can’t we all be friends” and “spread the love, baby”. I’m all for world peace and letting everyone just do their own thing as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone else.
7. ” Things like predatory behavior, stalking, threats, harassment, intimidation, invading privacy, revealing other people’s personal information, and inciting others to commit violent acts or to violate the Terms of Use are taken very seriously. Anyone caught doing these things may be permanently banned from YouTube.”
Jeff Says: There’s nothing predatory in any of my youtube videos, and the only thing I incite in my videos is the burning desire to out and get some traffic, build a list, and make some money. Is that such a bad thing?
8. ” Everyone hates spam. Don’t create misleading descriptions, tags, titles or thumbnails in order to increase views. It’s not okay to post large amounts of untargeted, unwanted or repetitive content, including comments and private messages.”
Jeff Says: This “everyone hates spam” is the only one I can think of that may apply.
But only because youtube has billions of videos to review so they may have been a bit too rushed when they looked at this particular video and didn’t realize it was indeed a unique video with 100% unique content.
I can certainly understand their mistake in their haste reviewing billions of videos so I hope this clears it up for them.
This particular video was part 2 of a 18 part series.
My presentation at the seminar lasted for almost 3 hours. But when I posted these videos in 2008 youtube only allowed your videos to be 10 minutes long.
So I chopped up the presentation into 18 unique videos that were about 10 minutes long.
Each video contained unique content from my presentation and needed to be watch in sequence, starting with part 1 or they wouldn’t’ make sense.
Each of the 18 videos had the same title and description with one exception; we added “part 1”, “part 2”, “part 3” to the titles so the youtube community could easily find all 18 parts.
The title of the video in question was named “Part 2 — Internet Marketing With, SEO, youtube, Myspace, Facebook, RSS Feeds and More”.
If I gave each of the 18 parts of the series a completely unique title and description youtube viewers would never be able to figure out which of the almost 90 videos in my youtube channel were related, and in which order they were supposed to watch them.
Yes, they were in a “playlist” but when you searched google or youtube they still came up as individual videos.
And if you visited my youtube channel after finding one of them in the search results of google, youtube, bing, or yahoo they were still listed as individual videos in the channel (youtube designed it to work this way, not me).
So to make it easier for the youtube community I gave each of the 18 parts the same title and description with the exception of adding “Part 1”, “Part 2″… “Part 18” to the title.
It’s like a movie… they called Lethal Weapon 4 for a reason. If you saw it on a video rental shelf and you hadn’t seen Lethal Weapon 1, 2 or 3 yet you may want to go back and watch those first so part 4 made more sense to you. Or if you watched part 4 and liked it, it would be easy for you to go back and rent parts 1, 2 or 3.
And how could you possibly know that” Friday the 13th Part VIII: Jason Takes Manhattan” was the 8th movie in the “Friday the 13th” series if they didn’t tell you that in the title? They were all 100% original (arguably) movies but they shared a common title.
So in the end…
I did what I thought was best for the youtube community from a usability standpoint and used an almost (but not quite) title and description for each of the 18 unique parts of my one seminar presentation that was posted on youtube.
Each of the 18 videos contained 100% unique content.
I just added “part 1, part 2, part 3, etc” to the same basic title so they would be easy to identify as related videos, and the viewers would be able to watch them in the correct order since they were all part of the same 3 hour long seminar presentation.
So let’s recap:
- As far as I can tell I have never violated any of the youtube community guidelines that they listed as a possible reason for my account being cancelled.
- I have never used automated software to increase anything with this account.
- I never posted my youtube videos to more than one youtube channel.
- I had approximately 7,800 subscribers to my youtube channel and every single one of them subscribed under their own free will because I gave away such great free content on youtube.
- I posted almost 90 unique videos to youtube over the last 3 or 4 years.
- I created all of the videos and owned the copyright, or I had permission from the seminar host to post my presentations given at their seminar.
- I had over a million channel views on youtube.
- My Individual videos had been viewed as many as 350,000 times and I never used automated systems of any kind to inflate my views.
- And the video listed as inappropriate by youtube was simply me speaking at an internet marketing seminar teaching people how to promote themselves and their business online. Which, by the way, is listed as a “permissable commercial use” of youtube in their own Terms of Service.
I wasn’t even selling anything in the video.
Yet youtube sends me an email and tells me that the video that has been posted for 3 years was “inappropriate”
And without further warning and without receiving any additional flags they immediately terminated my youtube channel and locked me out.
They won’t even allow me access to download the original copies of my videos that I worked so hard to create all these years.
And when I sent them an email asking them “why” they terminated my account they replied with an email that said “We are unable to provide specific detail regarding your account suspension or your video’s removal. For more information on our what we consider inappropriate content or conduct while using YouTube, please visit our Community Guidelines and Tips at http://www.youtube.com/t/community_guidelines and our Help Center article…
That response really didn’t answer my questions so I sent them another email asking for clarification.
I know you guys are anxious for me to get my youtube account back so I can continue sharing my tutorials with you, and so am I because we all love youtube… it’s the best video sharing site out there, but I’m still not having much luck getting in touch with youtube.
As you can see from my post below either youtube’s customer service or automated response system could use a little help, or they just don’t feel like talking to me. Either way it is very frustrating.
Youtube sent the “flagged” notice to the gmail account associated with my youtube account. It’s the same email they send all their messages to, and it’s the email account I use to log into my youtube account.
When I replied to their “flagged” notice asking them why they would terminate my youtube account with only 1 flag in over 18 months, and only 2 flags in the history of an account with something like 1 million channel views…
Youtube replied by saying “The email address that you have provided does not match the email address of the account in question. In order for us to review your issue, you must be the owner of the account”
(click the image below to view a copy of youtube’s email in full screen)
I’m not sure how that could be the case considering I logged into my gmail account and directly replied to the email they sent me notifying me that my video had been removed.
I’ve been known to make mistakes, everyone does, but in this case I simply replied to their original email by hitting “reply” from within my gmail account.
I then replied again telling them there must be some kind of mistake and that I could prove I was the owner of the account, and that “this” gmail account was indeed the account associated with my youtube account.
But it’s been 2 or 3 weeks and still no further replies from youtube.
I understand that youtube is busy, much busier than I am. But I’ve been waiting patiently for 31 days now and still no luck getting through to them. So I need your help clearing this misunderstanding up…
Here’s How You Can Help:
If you have any idea why youtube would have shut my account down given the quality of the content I’ve been sharing on it for years I’d like to hear about it.
If you have any contacts at Google or Youtube that you could put me in touch with that would be willing to hear my case I’d love to hear from them.
If you have experienced similar issues with Youtube or Google (since Google owns Youtube) I’d love to hear about it.
If you have any idea how I can go about getting my channel reactivated I’d love to hear about.
So please leave your comments below and let’s see if we can help us, and help youtube learn from this experience. And don’t be afraid to share this post with your facebook friends, your twitter followers or your email readers… the more people that hear about this misunderstanding the better.
More importantly… let’s see if we can clear this up so I can continue posting unique, helpful, content- rich videos to youtube for you and the million other viewers of my channel to enjoy!
Neil Ward says
Jeff the reason that video was banned is as plain as the nose on my face. LARGE
You mentioned The Word YouTube in a video seen by potentially hundreds of thousands of people singing the praises of using YouTube as one of the best ways to be noticed on the interenet. What could be more insulting to them? LOL !!!!!! I can’t think of a more complimentry way of including them in your marketing and therefore promoting all the folks that follow you to use them. Isn’t that why they are here, to grow and expand their reach?
I believe you got mis-slammed by some analize-bot they have going on.
Keep up the greatness and let YouTube suffer their loss.
Brian says
Jeff,
This absolutely stinks. I guess we should all be careful in the future (not that you did anything wrong!)
Any ideas on how to get around this in the future?
One thing I thought about was just putting short intro videos on youtube and them hosting the main content somewhere else.
Interested to know your thoughts.
Brian
Jeff Johnson says
Actually, most of the videos on youtube were short versions or simply lead gen pieces.
I’ve never posted anything on youtube or any other “free” network that I’d be afraid to lose.
Just a bummer that they are willing to just cut the people that helped build them off so readily.
Jeff Dyson says
Hey Jeff,
I don’t think that the content itself is inappropriate according to Google (meaning … you’re not SHOWING explicit content or killing animals, etc) but it does come close to the line of teaching people how to set up spam blogs or spam pages just to drive traffic to their websites.
Granted, I know you, the techniques you use and the content you provide which are all legit but theoretically spammers could use your info to create poor quality content and get multiple listings in search engines.
If you watch from about 2:30 ~ 5:30 or so you mention that you create multiple accounts in multiple social media properties which all rank pretty high in Google (and could potentially rank multiple times on the first page). Although this type of setup is allowed on those Web 2.0 properties I know that Google doesn’t allow it (or it is REALLY frowned upon) which is why they may have taken it down .. so your info couldn’t be abused by less-than-ethical marketers.
These techniques have been used for many years and are still used today (as you know) but I’m sure that Google isn’t a fan of anyone showing people how to potentially setup spam blogs and get around their search algorithm. I guess this info is really more valuable than you know because it exposes a gaping hole in their business which they cannot close.
Jeff Johnson says
True, that’s what I used to teach but haven’t for years.
But even so, is it so bad compared to some of the stuff youtube and google allow to be posted on their properties?
I can’t even let my children watch youtube without a chaperone because there is so much “harmful” stuff on the site.
J Northey says
I’m pretty sure the reason is your very direct and simply stated fact (and instructions to others) that you create many fake/shell accounts on dozens of sites.
You are actively telling people to violate terms of service of many websites to make money, not just YouTube. This is a broader issue, about you specifically telling people to do specifically prohibited things all over the internet.
This is in direct violation of user guidelines and you know it. You are prohibited on most sites from making fake accounts, using fake names, having more than one account per person, etc.
You have often said matter-of-fact that you intentionally violate user policies on various sites (“hired college kids to make dozens and dozens of MySpace pages, and I don’t know anything about them…”). What is confusing about this? MySpace pages aren’t one per product, they’re one per user. Are you going to pretend you didn’t know this, or something equally ridiculous?
And this is just one small example of your gaming the system, be thankful it lasted this long.
Jeff Johnson says
But it is ok for other people to create videos that are soft porn or show people how to pick locks so they can break into someone’s house, etc. Go figure
Fred Delaney says
Youtube are getting wise to all the shenanigans relating to “frauducts” and the marketing of them.
As a member of the “syndicate”Jeff you will be well aware now of the backlash online that is happening to you.
Its only a matter of time before everyone wakes up to the damage that the “syndicate” has done to normal people…….luckily sites like Youtube are meaning that you are finally seeing redress for the untold misery the “syndicate” has caused marketing “frauducts”
Take a look over at Salty’s blog for the latest news
Jeff Johnson says
The “syndicate” as you call it is just a mastermind group with friends that shares ideas, that’s all.
Nothing sinister about it.
But everyone is entitled to an opinion and you obviously have yours.
Victor says
yeah it’s very strange, u have my support, it’s interesting to know why that happened also will be more educational stuff 🙂
Robert Bridge says
Hey Jeff Johnson I watched this video about three months ago again, video 2 was really educational, surprising how much data about RSS feeds you provided, if I remember one of them was about Yahoo Pipes, might be mistaken though. Next channel should be Pixel Piped just in case. I not sure but perhaps you can download the video by putting the URL into a way back machine then adding the link to download Youtube page. Yes the second video was by far the best, trust Youtube to make a mistake like this. As a fan of the JeffJohnson Youtube channel I prepared as a member of Youtube to sign a petition to get you back up and running, dude you are Youtube in my books. Hope we all can resolve this sometime soon, if I remember anything else I lets yous know.
Jeff Johnson says
Thanks, I’ll try to figure out how to organize a petition.
As for yahoo pipes; yaholl told me that our pipe was the most popular pipe they had ever seen and started throttling it back from a usage standpoint if I remember correctly. That’s why we stopped offering it and also because we moved away from auto-generated content and posting years ago.
But it was nice to know that we sent yahoo a ton of business while it lasted 🙂
John P says
Jeff I feel you and your frustration with this issue. The only way you can battle this is to either go to another video network or create your own video hosting website. Google has been doing pretty much whatever it feels like with adwords accounts and now they are transferring the same kind of monopolistic behavior over to youtube. FB is a great site to upload your videos at as well.
I would try to find a few other legit guys who got shut down and maybe hit youtube with a lawsuit for slandering your name with the “spam, scams, deceptive content” screen they display. That is seriously too much judgement on their part, and they should be put in their place. People have sued google in the past and won. Looks like you have a great chance here of building precedent for similar situations as yours.
Jeff Johnson says
They definitely should at least change the wording for videos that have been removed… not cool, youtube.
NoNameForThisComment says
Jeff, I watched your video and I think that they just don’t like people profiting from their platform and you clearly admitted that you were using them for lead gen. There is nothing wrong with it but still they just probably didn’t like it.
When Google bought Youtube it was losing money. They want to make money from it. They see people making a killing from their videos and building lists for free.
Google now has an affiliate site called “Google Advisor” lol Search the term “home loans” and look at Google’s comparison ads. They promote other companies and getting paid for every lead. I bet they will expand that later to other niches.
Google = The New Super Affiliate (that takes out its competition with one click of a button…cough…over 200k adwords advertisers gone…cough)
Shane says
This process of closing accounts seems to have been going on for a while now. I didn’t read all of the 500+ comments, but here is a video with some general YouTube guidelines: http://gideonshalwick.com/youtube-account-terminated/ Maybe It’ll give some additional insight.
Jeff Johnson says
can’t view the vdieo from where I’m at right now but I’ll be sure to check it out, thanks.
However , cloning on my part can’t be the issue..
I don’t clone my accounts and I’ve never posted those videos in any other youtube account. Most of them were never posted anywhere but youtube itself.
I know people have stolen my videos without my consent and posted them on their own youtube channels. Some of them even slapped their own watermark on them to cover up mine.
Funny, youtube still has those illegal copies showing on yotuube.
Kevin Polley says
I don’t like the fact that G seem to think they own the web but they do have a business to run. Like all businesses they are accountable … we just have to find out how to make them accountable.
For a very simple solution (which may be more effective that emailing the minions at G) why not just @mattcutts and ask him straight for a straight answer or help to rectify the problem they have caused?
He is after all the head of webspam at G and if your content is considered web spam the IM industry needs to open its eyes and act accordingly..
Good luck Jeff … but like many other personal experiences here I wouldn’t hold your breath. I hope I’m wrong.
Kevin